The 18th Street Gang in Los Angeles

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By Alex A. Alonso for StreetGangs.com
posted December 22, 2002 | updated June 25, 2008

LOS ANGELES – In Los Angeles the 18th Street gang is considered the largest gang in Los Angeles County but that label is very misleading. Even though they are estimated to have approximately 15,000 members in Los Angeles County, they are actually a collection of approximately 20 separate individual autonomous gangs operating under the same label with separate barrios in the San Fernando Valley, the San Gabriel Valley, the South Bay, South Los Angeles, Downtown Los Angeles, Pico Union, Inglewood, and Cudahy. Some estimates of the 18th are as low as 8,000 members. The notoriety of the gang is based on four distinct barrios, three near downtown Los Angeles west of the Staple’s Center and the 110 Freeway, and one in the West Adams area.

The individual factions can number from 50 to several hundred members and they are dispersed throughout the County, but their strong hold and their oldest barrio is located in the Pico Union (Grand View, Hoover clicks) area east of the Staples center between the Harbor 110 Freeway (east) and Hoover Ave (west). Slightly to the north are two other barrios in the Shatto Park and MacArthur Park (Colombia Lil Cycos click) areas. There are also two significant size 18th Street Barrios in South LA, one between Vernon (north) and Slauson (south) along Vermont Avenue and the second one being between Florence (north) and 91st Street (south). One of the most infamous 18th Street neighborhoods would be in the West Adams (Smiley, Alsace, Lil Lowks) because member Catorina Gonzales was convicted for killing LAPD officer Filbert Cuesta in 1998, and more recently, member Pedro Espinoza was charged in the murder of High School star athlete Jamiel Shaw stemming from the conflict with the Bloods.

The media often states that 18th Street is the largest gang in Los Angeles, but the largest single Hispanic gang in terms of turf size and membership would be one of 18th Street’s main rivals, the Florencia 13 gang that has a turf that stretches from Western (west) to Compton Avenues (east). Members of this gang were recently indicted by the Feds on drug trafficking and murder charges.

Historical Background

The 18th Street gang formed around 1959 in the Pico Union area when members of larger Clanton 14 neighborhood decided to start a new click. Originally 18th Street was a click of the bigger Clanton 14th Street neighborhood. As membership of Clanton grew, newer members who lived off of 18th Street decided to start Clanton 18th Street. Forming a new click of a gang can sometimes be a challenge, because some members may look at it as an action that does not unify but separates the neighborhood, and possibly creates division between members that will be forced to choose sides during a conflict. On the other hand, adding a click can expand the turf, bring in more members, and make the neighborhood appear to be stronger. There is usually a protocol to creating a new click and each neighborhood is different when it comes to that, but ultimately Clanton 14 core members did not approve of having Clanton 18, so the new click members had to make a decision of falling in line with Clanton 14, or taking a defiant position to start their own gang, hence the birth of 18th Street. They just simply dropped the Clanton off their name and then became rivals against them. As the years progressed, Clanton lost their main strong hold off 14th Street, and today that area is dominated by 18th Street.

Clanton did not disappear though as their neighborhood in Hollywood off Beverly has survived and their other neighborhood on the South Side near San Pedro is still thriving. Most gangs today have clicks and there is usually little resistance from the rest of the gang when members want to start a new click, because there is a perceived benefit to the entire gang as outsiders will assume the gang is growing, and it provides a psychological edge against their rivals. Through a small act of defiance, one of the most well known gangs was born in Los Angeles. Because of its aggressive recruiting techniques of accepting any all new comers the name of this gang has caught on and has been copied and mimicked in several other cities and countries around the world.

Global Reach: Real or Perceived?

Since its inception youth from every large city in the US, Canada, Mexico and countries in Central & South America America, Europe and most likely several other cities and countries have adapted the use of the name 18th Street. Because of the wide spread popularity, the FBI has labeled this gang a transnational gang with global reach, but there is no evidence to support the existence of any such global network in which the 18th Street gang operates between cities or across national borders. Because of deportation, the gang culture of LA was introduced into Mexico and Central America, but transnational linkages in which the 18th Street gang operate have not been uncovered thus far. A study from 2007 found that international connections among Hispanic gangs like 18th Street were over stated and that there were no signs of transnational coordination among gang members. Academic studies have also fell short from identifying these types of networks among Los Angeles based Hispanic gangs.

The typical propaganda from law enforcement is designed to stigmatize the gang by over exaggerating the extent to which the gang operates. Phrases like “violent foreign-born gang members” and “their behavior is often deadly” uses the fear card to gain public support for what ever law enforcement action is desired against the group. For years the FBI has been telling us that there exists parallels between 18th Street and international crime but many of those linkages have been overstated and just because the federal government says that 18th Street possesses weapons of mass destruction does not necessarily mean that it is true. United States Senator Dianne Feinstein published a report in 2003 which erroneously stated that 80 percent of the 18th Street gang in California consists of illegal immigrants.

Gang Injunctions

The Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office has three gang injunctions against the 18th Street; two in the Rampart Division and one in the Southwest Division of the LAPD against the same faction that Catorino Gonzales and Pedro Espinoza were from. This specific 18th Street gang has several clicks including Alcase, Lil Lowks, and Smiley Drive.

The Rampart injunctions were under review and temporarily halted in September of 1999 because of the Rampart corruption scandal that implicated several LAPD officers in criminal activity. In 2002 these injunctions were refiled by the City Attorney’s Office and placed back into affect.

Warring with Bloods

Certain factions of 18th Street in South Los Angeles are feuding with Black gangs, specifically the Bloods. In 1994, members of the Rancho Park click that were hanging out on Gibraltar Avenue in the Jungles got into a conflict with members of the Black P Stones in the Jungles. The actual source of this conflict remains in question, but an argument ensued, and an 18th Street member was murdered, thus starting the cycle of violence between the Bloods and the 18th Street. The Black Stones from the City joined the conflict, then in 1996 the Rollin’ 20s Bloods got involved. More recently the Fruit Town Brims, the 4th Blood gang joined the conflict against the 18th Street. This conflict followed the war between the Venice Shoreline Crips, a predominately black gang and the Hispanic Venice 13, that saw 17 murders in 9 months from 1993-94. Eventually, Venice 13 had the support of three other Hispanic gangs; Culver City Boys, Sotel, and Santa Monica 13, but that war was over by 1996.

List of all 18th Street Neighborhoods in Los Angeles County

Photo of 18th Street Graffiti from 1997

18th Street in the News

  • 18 members of MacArthur Park area gang are indicted Oct 25, 2007
  • Judge Lifts Injunction Against 18th Street Gang Members, February 21, 2002, LA Times
  • California’s Most Violent Export by Investigator Al Valdez
  • ENFORCEMENT OF GANG INJUNCTION DELAYED AGAIN , October 23, 1999, LA Times
  • L.A.’s Dirty War on Gangs , October 11, 1999, LA Weekly
  • Rampart Probe May Put Gang Injunction at Risk , September 19, 1999, LA Times
  • Alleged Gang Member Arrested in LAPD murder, August 14, 1998, AP
  • 18th Street Gang Member Sentenced to Death, October 31, 1997, City News Service
  • Judge Puts More Heat on 18th Street Gang, August 29, 1997, KCBS2.com

  • 18th Street Gang: Another Injunction?
    , August 4, 1997, KCBS


  • Judge Bans 18th Street Gang
    , July 11, 1997, KCBS2.com

  • An Inside Look at 18th St.’s Menace; Its size and ability to recruit across ethnic lines make the L.A.-based network one of the most prolific gangs in the nation, Nov 17, 1996, LA Times
  • 116 Comments for “The 18th Street Gang in Los Angeles”

    1. exotic

      wetS GOO BACK HOME!!!

    2. fooshi

      wets are home

    3. antman6447

      i just hope, one, day, it could, all, stop…
      peace..

      : )

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    5. vago

      f u vatos.. 18 street gang 4 life big vago im 18 with a bullet chick

    6. FLIRT

      Hey, VAGO I wanna know if ur still around. VaGO 4rm ws xv3st. i stay in southcentral,la

    7. ron

      the ish will never stop as long as border is open we have them in Washington only good thing is they don't speak English no one likes egg street

    8. Proud Chicano

      Egg st is the biggest gang they're in the oc ie taking over weak neighborhoods they let anyone in blacks Armenians whites wets guatemalans not alot of Chicanos in egg st not alot in la period

    9. The individual factions can number from 50 to several hundred members and they are dispersed throughout the County, but their strong hold and their oldest barrio is located in the Pico Union of the Staples center between the Harbor 110 Freeway…..

    10. roach

      F#@K fakes HNE X3 HAWTHORNE 13 lws fab F#@K the rest

    11. JOSE PODEROSO

      MEXICANS CONTROL THE BORDERS DRUG FLOW TO 7 COUNTRYS AND WE DEMAND RESPECT AT WHATEVER COST……WHEN THEY k OR CAPTURE ANY OF ARE MAN THERES 5 MORE WILLING TO EXECUTE ORDERS…….NO ONE IS UNTOUCHABLE NO ONE……

    12. JOSE PODEROSO

      BY THE WAY f U EXOCTIC SUCK ON THE MEXICAN
      LABORS NUTTS….PINCHE LOUSSY LAZY NEGRITOSSSSS…..

    13. Horse

      Gangs are for people who can’t use their own brains. They need someone else to thinks for them. Get a real job you losers.

    14. Alex

      Your mother goes to college(lol)

    15. Bay Area OG

      Man I send this message out to the people of color you Africa and Latin King and Queens come from ancient cultures that date back to the beginning of time both cultures have the same thing in common such as: pyrmids, worship, history and respect for gods green earth, now our ancestors that laid that golden path for love and peace for all man kind weather they’re Black, Brown or White are tossing and turning in there grave because YOU UNEDUCATED fS k-ingG EACHOTHER FOR NO APPARENT REASON LIKE A STREET CONNER THAT YOU WILL NEVER OWN !!!! A REASON TO DISTROY WHAT MR. CESAR CHAVES AND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING SET OUT FOR US YEARS AGO !!!! WHAT A fING WAIST NO SELF RESPECT AND NO RESPECT TO THE EYGPTIAN AND AZTEC CULTURE

    16. f u all south side cudahy 13 clara st locos f u chicks

    17. Hey jose i agree with u send me a email my address Sweetone2825@yahoo.com.

    18. Dreamer

      I AM LOOKING FOR A GUY NAME JOE FROM 18ST WE KNOW EACH OTHER FROM A LONG TIME AGO I AM FROM EL PASO AND IT WAS DURING THE YEAR OF 1984
      I HOPE THAT I CAN FIND HIM.

    19. JOHN

      I SEEN JOE 5 MINS A GO HE WAS JUGGLING TENNIS BALLS RIGHT OFF THE FREEWAY EXIT FOR CHANGE I GAVE A QUARTER IM A EXIT THERE TOMMOROW SHOULD I TELL EM THAT DREAMER WANTS TO SUCK HIS PIPI ?

    20. MARA SALVATRUCHA_213_4Life

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    21. MARA SALVATRUCHA_213_4Life

      joe was suckin lollipop last i heard when he was lookin down the barrel of our cuetes

    22. Stryker18st

      f TWATTS u fers changed ur name just to survive lol chickes. ALL U fERS ARE JUST HATING cuz my gang always makes the front page on the sunday paper. AND THIS FOOL ALONZO NEEDS 2 STUliveD HIS WORK MORE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT 18st IS TAKING OUT ALL THEM Ni66ahS THAT FREELOAD OFF WELFARE section 8 fers and they say we are fin up the economy ish at least we work we may saell oranges outside the freeways but we do something unlike Ni66ahs that beg for change outside liquor stores. f PISS STAIN f JAMIEL SHAWS chick ASS HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVE. ONE LESS Ni66ah OFF OF SECTION 8 AND WELFARE

      • 18K

        Latinos get more Welfare than any other nationaity in the U.S. check your statistics 18st. You are probably here illegally and get free medical benefits. LOL

    23. 18K

      Fake Teens is Madd kuz Bloods Murder Illegals and make em wish they never came here to get free health care and Welfare. Faketeen ker. Thats why faketeens shoot kuz they can’t fight. They got mad and bloods for beating they ass in fist fights. But f it we still k-ing em. Yall k civlians but we k yall sollivers!!! Go back to the Pen and suck the white mans d#$k in the pen!!

      18K 13k CK MS13K

    24. Just Saying...

      18K….you got some homework to do homie. this is from a government website…a break down of how welfare in this country is allocated.

      White 38.8%
      Black 39.8%
      Hispanic 15.7%
      Asian 2.4%
      other 3.3%

      maybe if you at least sold oranges, you wouldn’t lead the country in welfare!!!!

      • mag3 ok

        I dont know about the country but I work for L A county dpss, and Hispanics make up close to 50% of the welfare recipients here. So maybe 18k is not the only one who needs to do more homework.

      • Blacks are only 13% of the population.

        • Just Saying...

          exactly! and yet they account for 39.8% of all welfare recepients.

          • Just Saying...

            hispanics are 14% of populatoin and account for 15.7% of all welfare.
            white are 66% of population and use 38% of welfare.

            so what this means is that the white population is 5 times that of the black population in this country, yet the black poplulation still has more people using welfare.

    25. Akoni

      lol

      yo i dont care dats real.

      I work register at supermarket everyone there will tell you. whenver you see a lot of groceries in a cart. whitey usually buys on credit. mexicans usually pull out fat wads of cash. brotherman is usually rocking ebt.

    26. Peanut

      So it sounds like one group of people has been giving something on good faith. Another group is earning their keep, and one is just free loading. Sounds about right!

    27. 666LILVAGO

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    28. 666LILVAGO

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    29. Peanut

      that is sad. it’s like the huge plant that burned down, thousands of hard workers lost their lives. but you don’t have to worry about it, there were no blacks in there. Now if the Welfare Office or liquor store burns down, y’all black folk in trouble!

      • Peanut

        I don’t think there’s anymore black people left in LA, Mexicans ran most of them out.

        It’s kind of funny huh, Middle easterners don’t want you in their cabs, Asians dont want you in their stores, whites don’t want you in there neighborhoods, and know we’ve kicked you out of our city. Your a lazy free loading race, these numbers prove it. it’s no coincedence your were chosen as slaves…outside of jumping high, running fast and acting a fool….there’s not much to you.

        to answer your question, I’m not sure, maybe, but I do know no one in family has been forced to pick cotton his entire life while the white man lollipoped his wife and daughter whenver he chose. That had to hurt, black man picks white cotton while the white man picks black putang…I guess it’s not as bad as it sounds, most people would rather pick cotton than sleep with a full blooded black lady.

        how does it feel to be dead last in national IQ test? It’s like your people just got stuck in the evolution process. Sorry man, I’ll let you get back to welfare, liquor stores and “jaccing people”.

        • mag3 ok

          You smart ass illiterate f. You belong to a mutt race of native Indian (Inka, Aztec), Spanaird, and African lineage, for you to talk about Black people in such a manner is ridiculous. You obviously dont read much, which is correct for your people. I read alot on these posting about blacks on welfare, being lazy and acting a fool and the such. Admittedly some Black people do these things but by and large its hispanics who do the most cowardly smart discusting things. I work for LA county DPSS and I can tell you most county recipients are hispanic and they behave in a most disrespectful manner and do alot of disgusting things while in the office. Peanut seems to be like most of those who psot on this web site talk alot of ish about Blacks probably because they got there ass beat by someone Black, and dont have the heart or guts to stand up for themeselves so they just write a bunch of uneducated crap on here. Most of you on here most likely dont even know more than one Black person, youve maybe seen some crack heads who were Black or you just go by what you see on T.V. or movies and form an opinion that goes for you too Ally and the dumb asses Wrong and Peanut who are both obviously uneducated and lack any type of real life one soounds like a shut in afraid to go outside and the other like a welfare recipient who is angry about being on welfare. As far as I’m concerned they can both as well as the rest of the HATERS can go blank themselves.

        • mag3 ok

          chick we still here. You just dont want to admitt it.

        • ally

          WOW! What an awful statement to make about an entire race of people. Why would you take the time to post that? There’s nothing positive that can come from what you’ve posted.

          So, I’ll just back up what you’ve had to say with this. Mexicans are todays slave. You guys watch the white mans babies, fix the white mans car, landscape their property, hoe out your mothers,sisters, aunts, cousins, etc…, you pray to the white mans god, you think you are above the black man. Migrant farm workers sleep in huts on the white mans land to pick the white mans harvest and get to keep a little to sell on the side of the road in California. The white man has people like you forgetting that Mexicans are a minority and slowing learning how to live with indoor plumbing.

          The white man has you forgetting that you have African blood running through most of you and that your ancestors were also native people and not white.

          If you want to put down a race pick that one whose language you speak not the only race that whites are willing to overlook and chose you.

          They chose hispanics over blacks, because hispanics do not look for the same career advancement and are willing to work for low wages. Don’t think you’ve got it all figured out- obviously you have no idea.

          Postings like you one just made must be the only time you get to feel like you know something about nothing.

          • Wrong

            LMAO. Even a black person assuming a semblance of education is an ignorant creature. Ok, where do we begin? Slave; One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household. Mexicans are not slaves being they, unlike your ancestors, are not ‘bound in servitude.’ Nice try though. Yes, many do accept low paying jobs, but the alternative is to be dependent on the state. We’ll let you couch dwellers keep that title.

            “nothing positive came from that post” …definitely not the response! Yes, we fix the white’s man car so that we can buy our own car. And when it brakes, we fix it to. In fact, we fix anything that breaks in our household. You don’t believe me, go to Home Depot, I’ll give you $5 dollars for every brother you see, and you give me a quarter for every Mexican, who do you think will come out ahead? You know damn well I win this bet. Black people don’t fix ish. I’ve been to the east coast and the black ghettos out there are absolutely disgusting.

            “hoe out your mothers, sisters, aunts” ….funny you should say, most hoes are either white or black (same with homeless people), most pimps are black. Not to mention that black females lead in welfare cases. Maybe it’s because many black male adults refuse to accept responsibility. As ugly as black women are, it’s amazing they are being pimped. Show me a pretty black woman who is not mixed with some other race? You can’t, they are all bald headed, and that’s not attractive in our society. Why do you think you males are always trying to get with girls outside their race. So your being pimped, and for obvious reasons.

            “you pray to the white man’s god” …and you don’t? There’s a Baptist church on every corner in South Central. Don’t play dumb, you know this! However, I am much more in tune with my ancestors beliefs than you’ll ever be. You wouldn’t know how to survive in the place of your ancestors. I could get by without skipping a beat.

            “your ancestors were also native people and not white” yet a few post before you said “Hispanics are people whose ancestors are from spain – not indians” “Hispanics are white” ok, so which is it? What an idiot. LMFAO. For the record, Mexicans are a mixed breed but Mexico has more indigenous people than any other country in the western hemisphere. Mexicans themselves have been classified as an indigenous group because genetically they resemble their Native ancestors as opposed to the pale Spaniards.

            “They choose Hispanics over blacks because Hispanics do not look for career advancement” LOL. This is capitalism. Corporations wants ambitious people. If you really believe that, go to your next job interview and act uninterested in career development. You know damn well you won’t get that job. They pick Hispanics because they work hard without complaining. You think I’m lying, go back to those statistics and explain why such a small group of people like yourself is leading the country in WELFARE!!!

            We may have all started in Africa, but if you believe that theory, we evolved and you didn’t! People keep looking for the missing link, IT’S YOU!!!

          • Jim

            Them mexican chickes have alot of babies get fat and apply for welfare everyday all day. It’s a fact. Just go to any county building in L.A.

          • Dub

            those stats you posted don’t show the amount of illegal mexicans over here getting benefits, those stats are also from 1993

            Blacks were brought to this country against their will by force, they were red lined into ghettos and then those ghettos were pumped with crack/cocaine and were not funded like the white areas, u had deteriorating schools etc…..all african culture/identity was stripped away
            what was left was slave culture shown by the white man, blacks still stood up and fought for equal rights for ALL COLORED PEOPLE, that includes your wet ass lookin like a ben davis puppy dog happily typing away on your computer

            who do ya’ll got Ceaser Chavez……lol clowns

            you illegal ass wets are jumping the border by the thousands, and because of your catholic religion your not using any birth control, every time i see a wet female tha chick got 3 kids in a stroller and another 10 walking behind her, i see them at the grocery store pulling out EBT cards, why? you guys came here free will, no other minority that came here free will is on welfare the rate you guys are

            look at African immigrants, they all are majorily succesfull, matter of fact Nigerians are the most succesfull minority in America, you dumb ass grape picking wet learn something

            and your females have no ass, their butt is flat as a washboard, probably to accomadate your little ass d#$ks, not only that but “Maria” hairy ass will grow a mustache and gain about 400 lbs after her first kid, and that kid usually comes at a very young age
            LOL stank ass wet, still wearin carpets dressin like some tacky ass clowns with swapmeet rip off outfits, your whole look says “cheap”

            and all you wets saying this is your country state etc… the Aztecs did not live in this area, it was the northern Natives, so take your bullish down south to mexico where half your anscestors are from, the other part of your ancsestors are from europe, you know before the raping happened, in case you forgot your a product of the spaniards raping the aztecs and mayans ha ha ha

            oh yeah, and stop gangbangin, cuz ya’ll suc at it, just stic to walkin around with your khakis pulled up to your chin pretending your hard, because on the east side the donkeys are still losing even though they make up the majority of the population and have turned it into mexico……

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    32. ally

      Hispanics are people whose ancestors are from spain- not indians in what is south america today. Hispanics are white, mexicans have tanned skin. Hispanics lost their chance to take over this country hundred of years ago when they sold california,new mexico, texas, etc… to make up the rest of the U.S.

      Oh did you mean Hispanics (AKA- Mexicans) are going to take over… harvesting white mens crops, cleaning up white peoples homes, oh I get it now- maid service! Yeah you and your people can continue doing those things because your labor costs a lot less than any other minority group would accept for that kind of work and your women are good at watching our babies and teaching them enough spanish to be able to boss the housekeeper around!

      If blacks are puppy dogs…. are mexicans jackasses? Is your countries symbol a mule? LOL

    33. Ishmadamecui

      White people call this civilization. Your own kids murder you! Your fathers are mass murderers! You guys commit suicide! You people always have some kind of mental illness and are on antidepressent medication. You people INVENT great weapons to k other people and travel million miles away to use it on native women and children. Did the native americans come up with such an idea to ruin the world????

      The idea of STREET GANGS came from white people. In the 1800’s homeless kids in cities had to band together to survive. In the 1930’s L.A. white people formed gangs so they can carry out their racist hatred on latinos and blacks. Non whites naturally had to form together as protection against racist whites.

    34. I. C.

      All you fools are doing just what the white man wants…Fight and k each over crumbs, stay uneducated and ignorant while he steals all of your asses blind. You control all those dollars that come off the street, but without control of a common goal to use it for, you’re just pissin’ in the wind. The most ignorant of you bring the rest down to their level because you can’t fake intelligence.

      • no se

        3/4 of the politicians in cali are hispanic and or black. The “white man” is too busy selling his property and moving far away from Aztlan. It’s all your, pedro.

    35. ishmadamecui

      And they claim to have invented everything……..

    36. Selma, CA

      1st of all I would like to thank all you NETbangers out there who hooked me into reading all the comments but who i really wanna thank is the racial commentators, man you guys have kept me entertained for a couple of hours reading this jibberish. good job guys. now i can go back to a real NETgang, playing my mafia wars – and look – all my energy is filled up. thanx guys

    37. American Dream

      And after all of this it is plain to see, the white man again prevails over the minority races. Why is this I ponder… Is it the idea of education, post-secondary level? (That means college), is it the concept of hard work equating to good pay? I have figured out this conundrum (problem)! It is that white men do not feel anyone “owes” him a thing. We don’t have the mind frame of “they be holdin us down!” If a school is bad we find one that is excelling because education is key, we work hard and know the value of earning a decent pay, and instead of holding our hands out for reparations or work for beans, we are keeping our hands in our pocket saving a dollar here and there. Why? It is the American way.

    38. 18th ST LLS f HOVVER 18

    39. MoRA Toriun

      I am a white dude that lives in a heavily “blood” neighborhood. The bloods, meaning the blacks are cool with me, they watch my vehicle and I talk to them with respect and I give them respect, they have no ulterior motive with me, because I don’t snitch on them selling their weed and I dont stick my nose in their business. The mexicans I met always cool with me and shake my hand with one hand and stab me in the back with the other, they pretend they you’re friend and they try to jack u. Although I am white, I have been on the street most my life, the blacks get a bad shake because of their skin color. I would hire a black before a mexican any day, because if u trat them right, they do right by u, if u treat a mexican right, most of them will try to jack u anyway. I am not being racist, I am in my mid 40’s and I know the deal. I have been out here all my life. Its just a fact that I see. But I am not trying to group people saying all mexicans are that way, most of them are hard working. But if I had choice, I would trust a black over a mexican. It’s unfortunate to me sometimes that I am white, because I’ve been called a Ni66ah lover just because I am walking down the street with a black dude. If I ever went to prison, I couldn’t see myself having to hang with the white lollipop suckers, I would jsut assume hang myself.

    40. MoRA Toriun

      By the by…I know in general most blacks in the hood wouldn’t want nothing to do with me and see me as an enemy and I have balls enough to go through compton and other areas where you don’t see any white people. Im not afraid, because I mind my own business and do what I do and get out of there. Not all white people are enemies of minorities, and I base my liking of people on an individual basis not by the color of their skin. In general, the people I get along with the LEAST are my own people, I grew up very poor so I have always made friends with minorities, we understand each other and where we came from. When I go to a “black” party, I always have a good time, when I go to a white one, I always get bored and want to leave within 10 minutes. LOL ni66as know how to party! And I didn’t mean to say ish things about Mexicans, I can be cool with them, but it just seems no matter how much I have always helped mexican people, they try to f me in the end. At least black people if they don’t like me, they keep walking, they don’t ask me for favors and then talk ish about me. Sorry, thats my experence.

    41. MENACE18SP

      E’z up to all the homies from 18st,Menace Westside Xv3st Shatto Park Locos,first off f cudahy you lames act all bad cuz u supposably ked the homie Lil Silent from Ss Xv3st Tds,if that was you lames you levas did a drive by,you fools are 13 you aint suppose to that .P ish,and slobs get down with what fist,all you slobs be snitchen,ask boo boo and worm from rollin 20s second avenue how menace left both them on the ground like the little snitches they are after they snitched on the homie drowzy from rancho park lil locs,and striker what u sayin f all ni666as homie,la eme told us kick out all blacks but the vato who started 18st made our 18 rules and one is always back up a 18str cuz they from the hood,to join 18st u gotta get down with rivals,get jumped in,kick it with us for months to prove ur down,what do u slobs do,gang rape the newest chick to ur hood cuz u lames cant get no .P,we got every race in 18 and if we werent ish we wouldnt be in 13 countries and 39 states chickes,were known and were ken all our fen rivals

      f el morro seccas,i fed up ur chick homie lil bandit from hls and lazy,lazy could rest in piss that lame was nothing but a chester,i fed up villen from ns ms fulton locos,dozer from ws ms adam locos,temper from ws ms harvard criminals,criminal from ws ms normanlive locos,you el morros aint ish,we took you levas out all of LA,you fools aint ish but vatos who think ur hard cuz u k innocent ppl,thats dats da only reason u lames known for

    42. Cb1

      A bunch of wetbezzzy’s

      • Dreamer es CXIVst.

        I dont like faketeen you fools consists of 80% cerotoes and 20% mayans. In the pin only a couple of you farts run with the homies. But you fools are on your own. There’s a ws car and then there’s a ws faketeen car. I dont like el Salvador chick puro CLANTON1rst.

      • la vaga

        a bunch of trapos susio f ya black pplz dat talk ish F#%Kinq black piece of ish buenos para nada por eso ustedes se corres cuando ustedes pinches negros les ven a nosotros

    43. el og brown creeper

      man you youngsters, you vatos still dont get it, you fing peewees dont know ish, what the f, learn your history, you vatos dont know ish, fight the Ni66ahs and all those that discriminate the raza, because when it all comes down to it we need to stick together and blast on this fing Ni66ahs…el og brown creeper from sur 13 eighteen street gang and yes f Ni66ahs

    44. MENACE18SP

      og brown creeper,what you talken bout ese,18st we dont ride for the 13 homie,we ride for the E the 18

    45. mr. Man

      I’m a white man and I’m glad you wets and Ni66ahs are k-ingg each other

      • la vaga

        niqqa shut ur finq azz uppppppppppp damn como odio alos blancos ustedes son iqualito como la el morro seca ya white cagones son el morros blancos f white people all da white up y f ms ya niqqas r only internet gangsta fk ya pinche mierdosos cara de el morro putos pendejos

    46. OG BROWN CREEPER

      hey menace you done time en la pinta??? because if you have junior you’ll know that in the streets you bang the varrio but you still a sureno ese get it right lil vato,

    47. MENACE18SP

      ese ive been to camps but never the pen,they call me Menace from Ws Xv3st Shatto Park Locos,2 of my older brothers are from 18 too,my brother Cuete Ws Xv3st 106th Tiny Wynos,than my other brother Sniper Es Xv3st Bebitos,and me and none of the homies from WS,ES,NS,CS,SC, ride for the 13 or say were surenos cuz we aint,Ss18strs are cuz theyre reppin the south,and ese we got 18 rules to follow,1 is always back up a 18str no matter what race they are or what la eme says,we were a varrio before la eme said we were.we didnt ride for da 13 back than,we dont now,and were all about the 18,yea we got homies who are in la eme,we got the deepest number of soldados for la eme,and we got homies who are leaders but we get orders from homies from 18,they got vatos from other varrios given orders to different hoods,for us if they aint from 18 we wont do it

      • Me Meo de Risa

        U have 18 rules? What’s the 18th rule? Bend over and spread your ass cheeks for the AB’ers in the joint, that what it be, taco breath!

        • la vaga

          callate pinche pendejo el morro seca u finq internet qang banger f u y los demas q ablan el morro de lo disocheros ya finq cagones nalgas secas pinches levas

    48. MENACE18SP

      and ese i bang the varrio everywhere,homies doin time still dont give a f,especially el morro seccas,we smash on them all day everyday

    49. smokey

      f you fakes, ala verga leva puro ws clanton 14 gang dukes, f you menace and that pienche brown creeper hey old man f off puto, hahaha menace you little chick from ish park we’ll blast you levas like we did that mocoso b.huero fen leva f you puto and that pienche lollipop sucker oscuro, puro clanton 14 gang f faketeen street pienche rankers you putos dont control nada ese big bad CLANTON X1111 ST DUKES

      • la vaga

        Callete pinche pendejo el morro seca
        Aqui te tenqo alqo read it n be satesfied caqoso

        Dere was 1 MS 1 LK 1 BLOODZ 1 SWP 1 18ST@ da top of da mountian da LK sed DIZ IS 4 ALL DA LATIN KINGZ IN NEW YORK n jumped off da mountian da SwP sed DIZ IZ 4 ALL MA ORqULLOS IN DA EASTSIDE TURFZ n jumped off da mountian da BLOODZ niqqa sed DIZ IS 4 ALL MA NIqqAS IN DA PROJECTZ n jumped OFF da 18ST niqqa sed DIZ IS 4 ALL MA DISIOCHEROS OUT DERE n PUSH da MS NIqqA OFF

        Aqui nosotros controlamos la uno y ocho en qrande simon vato…..

        Ahi alqo mas q queres desir pinche caqoso….

        Quien dijo miedo aqui maje……..

        La uno y ocho en qrande niqqa praaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa f MS I qot bullets 4 mi chapetes pinches levas lo q son ustedes

      • MENACE18SP

        thats why homies from the hood took half ur hood while ___ boys and .P flats took the rest,u levas dont even have a hood to kick it in,ish u guys had to hang out with waffles who got taken out too by clicka los primos,2 old hoods of los and aint got no hood,u levas are jokes,f you,f waffles,and f el morros

    50. MENACE18SP

      clanton aint ish ese,we took you vatos out along time ago,yea u blast at us,in our barrios its playboys,rebels,crazy riders,easy riders,crazies,and some rockwood but they got taken out,were 10 deep in the park and none of our rivals show up,south central ese 54th and vermont,vermont and shatto run up ese,Menace Ws Xv3st Shatto Park Locos,f clanton,ask ur chick ass homies from es clanton grumpy and flaco how i fed them up,grumpy has family from white fence,and u lil lames cant even take loco park,ghetto boys,or primera flats,fen .P,

      • SHUT UP .POCHERO………..BIG VARRIO ASSASSINS KRIMINALS LOKOTES X3 WOOODMAN ST ORIGINALES .VALLEY GLEN A TOWN …18 k ALL DAY EVERYDAY EVEN ON SUNDAY,,,,,,,,,,,,,MUCH RESPET TO THAT BIG WS MS13 GANG

        • la vaga

          Otra ves ablando el morro este pinche leva mejor callete u finq internet banqer ish u sayinq we internet banqers den y is ur chick azz banqing with us den get reall vato la 18 controla la uno y ocho en grande vato duela a quien le duela aquia controlamos nosotros quien dijo miedo aqui maje f–>MS<–pero en grande ehhh dats y ya asses gets called mierdosos cuz ya pura el morros ese o mejor dicho vato yo no le tenqo miedo a nalive maje ni mucho menos alos cagoso como tu y tu click niqqa diz b la vaga talkinq on diz ish niqqa y la unica raszon q yo dije algo is cuz me dijieron q aqui ustedes majes estaban ablando el morro ala pija con MS maje ya niqqas r o mejor dicho MS solo son internet gangster jajaja ;] get @ me wen u become a reall gangster maje not a fake 1

      • smokey

        SO WHY DONT YOU TELL ME WHAT HAPPEND TO THOSE PUTOS FROM BEVERLY LOKS…PIENCHE FAKE chick f YOUR LEVA HOOD PURO CLANTON X4 GANG f THE .POCHEROS LEVAS 187 PUTOS

    51. KWETE

      LA MARA SALVATRUCHA TRECE HOLLYWOOD LOKOTES EL KWETE
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    52. MENACE18SP

      beverly loks,what is that ish leva,that aint a clicka from my hood,u chickes cant even handle varrios in the 818 or .P flats and ___ chickes in sc,and f el morro seccas,ur from hollywood jotos click,u must know what happened to ur chick ass homie lazy than,that leva was nuthin but a child molester,and tell ur chick ass homie lil bandit from hollywood jotos click that his girl or ex girl needs to quit hitten up da homies tryen to get some d#$k,that lames all .P whipped off her and she dont even like el morros u fen pieces of ish,you levas want some south central LA 54th and vermont west up levas

      • THEREALX12kwstkx3k

        54 Tiny Loks UP DESIOCHO flowerk

      • VARRIO ASSASSINS KRIMINALS LOKOTES X3 818 VALLEY f ALL FAKETTENZ .P AS HYNAS….YOUR HOMIES FROM NS 18ST AINT DHYT IN THAT VALLEY THEY DONT HAVE NO VARRIO THEY TRY TO TAKE BST13 BUT THEY CANT …………CUZ U VATOS ARE LAME ON THE SERIO ESE REAL TALK……STOP BANGING TO MS 13 IN THAT COMPUTER WY DONT YOU GO TO THEIR VARRIOS AHHH .PCHEROS GANG…………..Q VOLE PERRAS MUCH LOVE TO THAT HOMITOS FROM MS13 NLS FLS HLS……….AND f ALL YOU FAKE TONES…BIG SNIPER FROM FLORENCE 13 fED UR LIL HOMIE YOUNGSTER FROM THAT RANCHO PARQUE FAKETEENZ CLICK….SO KEEP TALKING UR stuff COMPUTER BANGER ……………YOU KNOW WHERE IM AT BIG 818 VALLERO ESE GET IT STR8 HYNA………….BIG AK 13 WOODMAN ST

    53. MENACE18SP

      f el morro seccas

      f these chick ass el morros:
      f temper from harvard criminals
      f lil bandit and lazy from hollywood locos
      f villen from fulton locos
      f bam bam from francis locos
      f doser from adam locos
      f criminal from normanlive locos

      they all know how i fed them up,and f stomper from ur lakewood locos click,hes hyna who he was .P whipped off fed our homies after he got fed up and started cryen like a chick,sayin he wasnt from el morros and she smacked him told him to man up and fight like a man and he cried,what a chick move,but thats all you el morros know to do

    54. MENACE18SP

      18ST gang worldwide 13 countries 39 states,westside,southside,eastside,northside,south central,central side 18st clicks

      E’z up to all the homies,Menace westside xv3st shatto park locos gang

      f these levas:
      clanton 14th
      mara salvatrucha
      hang out boys
      street villens
      ghettoe boys
      black p stones
      inglewood family
      crenshaw mafia
      centinela park piru
      harvard park brims
      primera flats
      cuatro flats
      must be crazy
      mi gran familia
      redondo beach los nietos
      alley tiny criminals
      harlem 30s
      mexican klan
      55th bunch
      5th and hill
      41st
      rebels
      easy riders
      playboys
      florencia
      crazy riders
      tepas 106st
      muertos 102nd
      inglewood 13
      lennox
      lil watts
      watts 13
      grape st watts
      fruit town brims
      white fence
      maravillas
      rollin 20s bloods
      alley locos
      radford st locos
      vineland boys
      varrio san fer
      nortenos
      latin kings
      gangster disciples
      vicelords
      longos
      southside 48 campo
      coachella valley
      logan heights
      38st
      36st
      temple st
      orphans
      46st
      nino surenos
      unos sin verguenza
      culver city boys
      sotel boys
      sanat monica 17th st
      venice 13
      es wilmas
      ws wilmas
      westside locos
      la mirada locos
      westside crazies
      harpys
      diamond st

      and any other hood that wants beef with 18,shout out to the homies from pico nuevo,quiet village gangsters,pico viejo,silverlake,alley boys,colonia chiques,cyclones,evergreen,eastlake,arcadia st

      • brownster

        and thats all over upstate…sur needs to unify…i aint got ish against 18st. but out here..they bringn their beef..foos out in upstate stay connected…but evry year foos startn beef with other hoods.wiping each otha out while theirs busters 2 handle…what is gona happen when ya get beef with all the sur..are ya still gona rep the eme? theirs busters 2 handle

      • brownster

        ish dawg…im from upstate…use 2live in oxnard la colonia..surenos out here fightn a war in sactown tryna take over buster turf…all that 18st beef is startn to get spread out here..theres foos from 18st and ms13 out here..tepa and angelino heights F#@Kin it over..cuz ya starting beefs out there..these busters out here..arent fightn eachother..if ish keeps goin the way ishs going…them busters are gona spread

      • vAVENUESx43

        f FAKETEEN! BIG BAD ASS AVENUESx43 GANG! A’S UP f 18ST & f DEM LEVAS FROM el morro SECA 2
        NE v AVENUESx43 PK ALL DAY f A PARK

        • A´S UP BUT f AVENUES ..IS ASSASSINS KINGS 13 GANG IN THAT 818 VALLEY AVENUE k ALL DAY……..18 k CARNALES k I fED UP UR HOMIE BY THAT STAPLE CENTER….IN CXL 13 HOOD…AND WAT….f BLOODS BK CK NK Ni66ah k NORTH k BULLDDOGGS k SO WATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT AK GANG

    55. american dream

      Once you minority scum get done banging on eachother we’ll be happy because no more section 8 welfare sucking ish heads will be around. You are gunna all bang eachother into oblivion. But who will then serve us whites your Burritos and fried chicken and corn bread???

      • white

        yor are a racist piece of ish

      • MENACE18SP

        Wow,a white guy talking ish,listen you redneck little chick,you could hate gangs all you want,that dont mean ish,your little chick ass cant do anything to stop anyone,no matter how much money,effort,or man power you put into it,gangs will always be a part of society just like your racist chick ass,section 8 housing,any area i drive i see a bunch of whites asking for money cuz theyre too lazy to get a fing job,atleast us minorities will be working trying to get money,your just making your race look bad so why dont you shut the f up,your just upset cuz you caught your sister fing a hispanic,she wanted a real man chick,not a sick f like you

        • that leva MENACE from fayteen is a internet gang banger, all that vato does is talk masa on the internet bangin his chick ass varrio. u think ur big dog gettin crazy with all these people, UR A LAME, get the f off the internet and put in some REAL work if ur big homies really seen what there “allegid” homeboy is claiming, u would get a calentada for claiming. U aint a real G, but if you think u are atleast act like one and just “watch and observe” fen puto f INTERNET GANG BANGERS!

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      YOU ALL ARE JUST A BUNCH OF DUMB ASSES….ESPECIALLY THE HISPANICS AND BLACKS WHO ARE DISSING EACH OTHER…..INSTEAD OF HATING EACH OTHER YOU SHOULD COME TOGETHER AND FIGHT AGAINST THESE RACIST WHITE’S…BESIDES ALOT OF BLACKS HAVE NATIVE BLOOD IN THEM ALSO, ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA. HOW THE HELL DO MEXICAN SIDE WITH RACIST ARYAN BROTHERHOOD? IDIOTS, THE 18 ST GANGS ARE .P’S FOR TAKING ORDERS FROM THEM AND KICKING OUT THEIR BLACK MEMBERS…..ALL BLACKS AND NATIVES, REGARDLESS IF YOU HAVE AZTEC, CHEROKEE, ETC ANCESTRY, SHOULD HAVE SOME COMMON SINCE TO WORK TOGETHER SINCE BOTH OF YOU RACES HAVE BEEN fED OVER THE CENTURIES….MEXICANS AND LATINOS HATING BLACKS IS JUST ANOTHER PLOY OL WHITEY IS USING JUST LIKE DURING SLAVERY WHEN LIGHT SKIN BLACKS WERE AGAINST DARK SKIN BLACKS….WAKE UP IDIOTS AND COME TOGETHER. STOP BEING BRAINWASHED BY THESE MORONS WHO WILL NEVER GET OUT OF JAIL…THE NAZIS, KKK, WHITE SUPREMEIST HATE YOU LATINOS JUST AS MUCH AS BLACKS….WAKE UP ASS HOLES…STOP BAD MOUTHING EACH OTHER AND COME TOGETHER. HELL MEXICANS SHOULD FIGHT AGAINST SPANIARDS, WHO BASICALLY HAVE TAKEN THE AZTEC AND OTHER TRADITIONS AND PUT THEIRS IN PLACE LIKE THE BRITISH AND PORTUGESE DID BLACKS DURING SLAVERY…….W A K E U P.
      P.S. WHEN IT COMES TO WELFARE AND EBT, WHITES ACCOUNT FOR OVER 60% OF IT, SO THOSE TRYING TO BLAME BLACKS AND MEXICANS AS THE PRIMARY RECEPIENTS ARE COMPLETELY WRONG.

    58. jay

      look we cant stop gang from spreading but we (my brothers) can do our part to rid the streets from these low lifes like we do in Iraqi and Afgan.by k-ingg a gangster one at a time..One a day allows kids to play

    59. jay

      we can rid the streets of gangs,but we can k one at a time like me and my brothers have did in Iraqi and Afgan..k-ingg a pelon a day allows kids to play

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    65. Pontiasus

      All you gang bangers are full of ish. first you get fed then you in the pen getting more fed and fed you are till you live. what kind of family is that fed up family. theres no meaning no more. just a bunch of marks getting fed up for nothing even your own f you up so they don’t get fed up. truth is you all fed up in a fed up gang banging bull ish world.

    66. Pontiasus Sturn

      All you gang bangers are full of ish. first you get fed then you in the pen getting more fed and fed you are till you live. what kind of family is that fed up family. theres no meaning no more. just a bunch of marks getting fed up for nothing even your own f you up so they don’t get fed up. truth is you all fed up in a fed up gang banging bull ish world.

    67. Dreamer es CXIVst.

      I dont like faketeen you fools consists of 80% cerotoes and 20% mayans. In the pin only a couple of you farts run with the homies. But you fools are on your own. There’s a ws car and then there’s a ws faketeen car. I dont like el Salvador chick puro CLANTON1rst.

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