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Highest Crime Rates

Unread post by Sentenza » August 11th, 2005, 5:25 am

Ok, out of each of these 5 Categories which countries in the world yall would think hold the top position?

1.Rape

2. Murders (per Capita)

3.Drug Offences

4. Kidnapping (per capita)

5. Total Crimes

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Unread post by NW10 » August 11th, 2005, 11:13 am

1.Rape: South Africa

2. Murders: Columbia

3.Drug Offences : USA

4. Kidnapping: Columbia/Mexico

5. Total Crimes: United Kingdom

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Unread post by KRDreJ » August 11th, 2005, 11:56 am

1: Rape: Don't know maybe U.S with all those sex offenders

2: Murders: Middle East

3: Drugs: Mexico/Colombia

4: Kidnapping: Well Mexico just beat Colombia followed by Brazil

5: Total Crimes Mexico to Central America

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Unread post by T~ » August 11th, 2005, 12:19 pm

NW10 wrote:1.Rape: South Africa

2. Murders: Columbia

3.Drug Offences : USA

4. Kidnapping: Columbia/Mexico

5. Total Crimes: United Kingdom
id say the same as you put..

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 11th, 2005, 1:35 pm

any more guesses?
some good guesses so far.

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Unread post by NW10 » August 11th, 2005, 2:33 pm

NW10 wrote:1.Rape: South Africa

2. Murders: Columbia

3.Drug Offences : USA

4. Kidnapping: Columbia/Mexico

5. Total Crimes: United Kingdom
These are based on what i think have the highest rate not the highest number

Using the highest number is unrealistic because siz is relative.

For example USA has around 16000 murders and Jamaica has around 900 per year.

But in terms of homicides per head of population
Jamaica has 33.3 per 100,000
USA has 5.6 per 100,000

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 11th, 2005, 3:00 pm

i already solved it, but i think ill wait for more guesses.
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Unread post by Sentenza » August 11th, 2005, 3:01 pm

double

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Unread post by NW10 » August 11th, 2005, 3:26 pm

Total crimes per capita is not reliable because countries count different types of crime, some will include minor offences whereas other may only have recorded serious offences.

Those figures are also very dated.

There are also problems in recording of crime, eg simple or common assault could be something as trivial as being given a black eye. In some places this could be recorded whereas in others people wouldnt even bother involving the police.

Like if your neighbour assaulted you and gave you a black eye and you were in the suburbs you may decide to phone the police.

In a tough inner city neighbourhood are you gonna do the same and risk another beating and a label as a snitch? i dont think so

In England we have what is known as recorded crime (crime recorded to police) and the British Crime Survey which is seen as a much more accurate indicator of crime.

In comparison of the two:

violent recorded crime is 19.2 per 1000 and BCS violence is 48.1 per 1000
domestic burglary is recorded at 7.7 per 1000 and BCS at 19.2 per 1000

In a western society we only record around 50% of crimes but in the third world what percentage of crime do you think gets reported in relation to what goes un-noticed?

Most likely a lot less than 50% is recorded

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 11th, 2005, 3:29 pm

Of course, statistics always mislead.
But at least they can be an indicator. And as far as i know 2000 is the most recent update of this statistic.

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Unread post by NW10 » August 11th, 2005, 3:34 pm

Your using figures off Nationmaster i think. And those arent the latest figures.

Most places have annual figures. Westernised countries certainaly do, England and USA 2004 figures are easily available online, there no secret the English Home Office and FBI publish reports on crime every year.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm#cius

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Unread post by Invincible » August 11th, 2005, 5:26 pm

Where does Russia or any white countries fit into these stats? Are minorities more prone to commiting crimes around the world?

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Unread post by NW10 » August 11th, 2005, 6:47 pm

Invincible wrote:Where does Russia or any white countries fit into these stats? Are minorities more prone to commiting crimes around the world?
Minorities?

Who's a minority when they are in their own country?

Half the worlds population is Chinese and Indian so you could say most of us are minorities. Most people live in and are Asian.

What exactly do you mean?

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Unread post by Invincible » August 11th, 2005, 8:45 pm

minorities though in most countries commit more crimes than the average population no? so the argument holds valid. And minorities from western first world countries that run other countries commit more crimes than whites in the same poverty category or not? Im just wonderin. I mean you cant compare any european country to africa but you can compare some to Latin America or the middle east for example. Albenia and Georgia for example.

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Unread post by kcf_4_ever_4_lyfe » August 11th, 2005, 11:23 pm

1. Rape: South Africa - 1.19 per 1000 people

2. Murders: Colombia - 0.61 per 1000 people

3. Drug Offences : Norway - 987.1 per 100,000 people

4. Kidnapping: Colombia - 120.61 kidnappings per 1 million people

5. Total Crimes: Dominica - 113.82 per 1000 people

6. Assaults: South Africa - 12.07 per 1000 people

7. Burglaries: Australia - 21.74 per 1000 people

8. Car Thefts: Australia - 6.92 per 1000 people

9. Police: Montserrat - 7.81 per 1000 people

10. Acuitted: Cyprus - 39.97 per 1000 people

11. Prisioners: United States - 715 per 100,000 people

12. Robberies: Spain - 12.32 per 1000 people

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 12th, 2005, 1:17 am

^^^^ Yea exactly. I had the same figures.

I think Colombia is not necessarily the place to be :wink:

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Unread post by alexalonso » July 17th, 2012, 1:30 am

My guesses:

1.Rape: China

2. Murders (per Capita): Mexico

3.Drug Offences: Jamaica

4. Kidnapping (per capita): Colombia

5. Total Crimes: India

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