Guess Who this is? Jamiel?
Alex Alonso for Streetgangs.Com
June 9, 2008
Jamiel Shaw in early 2008
As a result of John & Ken on 640 KFI and Doug McIntyre on 790 KABC, I received a level of hate calls and messages that was unprecedented in the 10 years my website has been on the internet. Their commentary on the subject matter was just wrong, and their explanation to my motivation was also dishonest. I was invited to go on the John & Ken show, but I declined because their producer wanted me to defend a statement that I never made in my original article and that was an indication to me that the attack was on. McIntyre never called or invited me to go on his program, and on May 13, 2008 he made some insidious comments about me and my conclusions.
I was invited on the Larry Elder show, and although many love him and many hate him, I must say he was extremely respectful to me and unfortunately I did not receive that level of respect from the other commentators on this issue.
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thats a blood from the twinkies. You can tell by the Texas Rangers hat and the red of course.
ish, I recognize that DISTINCTIVE bracelet from Jamiel Shaw's sympathy card on the web. This thug must have stolen it.
Damn! is that Jamiel Shaw?!?
No, it's a kid playing Cowboys.
Wait, god damn… that's Chuck Norris! what?
Hello "I"…
I thought this was bout street clubs not about "I" this and "I" that…?
It is what it is.
Sad that it had to come out that way. I do think the illegal alien discussion needed to happen. Its still relevant.
Plain and simple – just another fin moron. Not too hard to figure out.
Alex,
Do you want to shut John and Ken up? Use Conspiracy Theories. For example, how the Illuminati or the Bilderberg use these misguided kids to do their dirty work and strengthen the economy by encouraging them to sell drugs, k-ingg opponents and disenfranchising the people by keep them, in fear…not by the LAPD or the LASD, as they are a well-regulated-unionized entity, but by the same entity that controls the media, law and so on. Reason why I would recommend the Conspiracy theory, because, John and Ken won't DARE to oppose one of their most powerful show Coast to Coast AM with George Noory. John and Ken are shock talkers, but they are cowards when you bring up Coast.
Oh well I believe your web site is an amazing source of information, you are truely reliable and your comments are always well written and respectful.
I have been working as a volunteer for years in South Central L.A with kids in gang and I have learned so much by reading your web-site.
You know the say what doesn't k you make you stronger.
Keep up with the good job.
Sincerely
Florence
Well hopefully this young bratha lives long enough to gain sum wisdom i banged for many years lost alot of friends.. peace Irdogg from S/S Phoenix
Another troubled young brotha hiding behind a mask, to ashamed to show his face.
Thiis is a lot of our troubled young people. So how do we help them now that we have the true facts? Because denying it isn't going to help them.
Why are you people sending me this ish!Chuck Norris that man does more for the youth of this country then you are smartass.
Personally, I'm shocked at the lengths people went to lie about Jamiel Shaw Jr.'s gangbanger ways. Even resorting to the slander of the prosecutor and Mr. Alonso. What did they hope to achieve? It's not useful for these kids to have parents covering up their misdeeds and besides this is a homicide. They should realize it's all coming out at trial.
Mr. Alonso, if I were you I'd sue.
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Appears to be Jamiel Shaw… as i posted before, it was pretty obvious he was affiliated… even if he was a wanna be his dress style, ek ck, and the friends whom he associated with was enough to be consodered a twenty neighborhood blood…
Many times the media gets the story wrong; often parents don't know their kids like they think they know them.
May 'blood' rest in peace and may your critics look as smart as possible and issue and apology. If not f them, because as i also told you- YOU are the gang expert homie, not them. They talk that ish to get ratings…
so many people get really bent out of shape when the facts don't end up fitting the story they've already written (either in their heads or on the page). ignore the haters and keep doing your work, alex. especially ignore the ignorant m-fers who seized on jamiel shaw's death to try and push their own racist, anti-immigrant agendas.
as you expressed in your writings, the senseless tragedy of jamiel's death is in no way diminished by his apparent gang affiliations.
Why were you so desperate to expose this?
Seems like you are just doing what black folks always do.
Try to bring down someone else thats black.
What do you have to gain from exposing this?
Kudos from the white media?
Did you get paid to uncover this?
Black people suffer from this crabs in the barrel mentality bad.
You are nothing but a UNCLE TOM.
When you are on the right track, you will be challenged. Very interesting that I saw an article in the LA Weekly that mirrored the same information you posted on your site. There has to be some truth to it. I love the armchair liberals that post things on the internet. Cowards.
2XUCDIVA M. Sims-The LA Weekly had the same information?? OMG! Call the conspiracy police right now because KTLA and City Watch had it and they probably read it HERE first on Alex Alonso's website. The Associated Press… the whole damn world's getting it in court..Which, if you read the LA Weekly you'd know that the bandanna is court evidence. Everybody's got it, check? That's what happens when groups politicize a homicide with the wrong facts. The media beats a path to your door. But ooohh, Alex Alonso, will be "challenged". Spooky…
This family is getting the wrong advice from the wrong side. They got with folks like "realtalk" who seem to think it's fine to demean people as "Uncle Tom." Speaking of the LA Weekly, a person commented like that there about "Uncle Tom" and was exposed for being "a bitter white lady who was fired from Los Angeles City." We should all hope the Shaws come to their senses and seek counsel in their church and from spiritual advisors. The events they involved in since their child's death, for example the Minutemen, seem divisive and troublesome.
To quote homie who posted earlier, exactly why are you choosing to "expose" this perticular youngsta?? Can you imagine what his parents are going through? Let this youngsta rest in peace! Expose this bullish government for what it is instead of wasting energy with this. We so quick to go against each other.
And mufas need to be careful judging this family because some of you probably dont even know what your own children are into!
Dat One-Seems to me his family should let the 'youngsta' rest in peace. I can't imagine what they're going through because I can't imagine being on the ish they're on, stirring up false hate when they know their son's banging got him wacked. Stop judging Alex Alonso for telling the truth.
You have an agenda with the government, you can expose it. But the Minutemen lying about who is a gang banger so they can harm Hispanics is a worse agenda than the government's on. That needed to be exposed. Stop trying to shut up the truth with harassing Mr. Alonso. It's coming out faster than you can spell "smart white lady agitator."
Sad, but Jamiel SHaw II is telling us what he was in the My Space and beyond. He was a Blood and it got him ked. Maybe that's all we need to know to help each other find peace. His family's got to accept it and maybe they can talk about gang violence that plagues us all. The truth hurts but then it sets us free.
Dat One is another Whitey Infiltrator on the down low.
Facts, presented to blacks, either incite or confuse, but never inform
It's clear that this kid wanted to pretend what he wasn't. May he rest in Peace !
But rise and fuel tensions with this story is also horrible !
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Will John and Ken apologize or even admit they were wrong? I doubt it. I'm a fan of their show but they never go back and admit they were duped.
well mine is,tell all the kidlives to grab a bite of candy.and every thing should look good p.s this time watch the daughter better.p.s did you no 18 next to hoover then thirteen then 14,you no.and are others said look but don,t touch you no.peace from a branded man,and how about playing felis navadad,
"SMQ" get off alonso d#$k!
the enemy of peace-true and simple-but i hope thats what this forum iz about -to clear all the rumors and strighten the facts-KNOWLAGE IS POWER-lets make power peace-
Regardless if Jamiel Shaw was a wannabe or not he made a choice to represent the bloods and that choice comes with the risk of dying. Parents need to know what their kids are doing, look at their myspace page and correct the problem early!
Probably Iam an outsider from France,but being of African Descent Black hurts me to see my fellow Blacks in the USA dying over this nonsensical stuff called Gangs.
What about reppin' your hoods, areas or whatever city you want to claim but without going to the extent of murdering one another? Here in France, it's a small microcosm of what's happening in LA hoods, with disgruntled & disenfranchised young Blacks & Arabs but we're nowhere near to your levels of just k-ingg for free. Our hoods are plagued with drugs, gangs, dopeheads, lost souls etc…but we still are trying to co-exist together.
Rest In Peace young life (Jamiel Shaw rip)& to those still breathing please I suggest you think about the outcome of you joining that gang lifestyle.
Oh yeah one more thing Alonso, it is not so much a complaint but rather a favor Im asking for. Regarding your forum how can I get access to the other section/threads of your site.
my access to streetgangs forum is only restricted to the "NEWS" section & I know you want members to actively participate in debates before gaining access to other but me being based overseas, I guess I dont have much to say about foreign matters….but I still find it very informative as I can draw a parallel & similarities between our countries & their societal ills.
I hope you do take my concerns into account & resolve this urgently. Thanks in advance, You can hit me on Patrickalain14@hotmail.com
Another dumb Ni66ah thought gangs were cool and now is dead. And Ni66ahs ked him. 12% of the USA and commit 55% of the crimes.. thats the Ni66ah culture.
Ewwwwwwww you proved it! You proved that, at best, Jamiel was associated with a gang. So what?
His death was the push need to open a dialog about special order 40 and hopefully result in its repeal. The removal of illegal alien gang members, be they 10% or 80% of the gang's numbers, is the right thing to do for the people of this Community. We as citizens look to our Government to protect us and the removal of gang members is their responsibility. It serves no good to allow those that can be deported remain here. Despite Jamal's affiliation it could have just as easily been a bystander gunned down by an errant bullet. The debate (if there is really anything sensible to be debated here) is not ended or changed because he was a gang member. To me this is irrelevant. Even if Jamiel was a gang member, that doesn’t mean he should have been gunned down in the street. The people claiming that he got what he deserved are exactly the type of people that we should aggressively pursue and deport if we can or incarcerate them.
We truly cannot be protected until we work to combat gangs and deporting those deportable is a good step towards our ultimate safety.
I don't know why Mr. Alonso is taking heat for the article. I think it was very well written, clear and he never states that Jamiel was a gang member. The evidence speaks for itself that he was however gang affiliated which can be translated by the officials as being in a gang. It doesn't matter whether a person really is or isn't a gangmember as long as they state they are or hints that they are on a myspace account then they automatically become gang affiliated especially to a rival gang. Then wearing the colors in their own neighborhood just doesn't look like you are just a clueless kid about gangs in the area.
This is just an attempt to separate and further distance the blacks and hispanics in KKKalifornia. I have never heard anything remotely close to this situation happen on New York Streets. History replays itself after a few years I guess it is time to divide and conquer once again.
Mike your are smart guyed and clueless. Mr. Alonzo's debate was never about should we, or shoudln't we deport illegal aliens. Any you know this. It was trying to determine the cause behind Jamiels's murder, not who, but why. The who is pretty obvious.
If you want to start a deportation crusade, that's fine, and if you want to make Jamiel the martyr, that's fine also. As for Alonso's original statement, Jamiel was shot for beign assoicated with bloods….your trying to doing to inchange causes with effects to support a slightly different agenda…some overtones…but still different…
Fools can't see it.They are working for the owner's of this country and they are not even getting paid.Just smart enough to push the right buttons but not clever enough to ask the right questions..goverment tools..wake up
A picture can be worth a thousand words, and we can further divide it up into 500 false or 500 true words. 500+500=1000.
Bottom line the picture really ain't really saying too much of anything relevant. What you take from or get out of Jamiel Shaw's picture is subjective and a matter of individual opinion.
The picture neither proves or disproves his gang affiliation.
maybe he was. Maybe he wasn't it's really besides the point that the murderer had no legal right to be in this country in the first place.
If your not here to benefit from what this country has to offer for you progress and empowerment, then take your illegal asses back home!!!
Kasey,
First off, I'm not illegal, so I'm not going anywhere.
Secondly, if you ever got outside of Malibu you would know that hat is a known gang hat for the community he coincidently lives in, he's also throwing up a gang sign for this same gang he coincendly lives in and is wearing a red rag as the gang members from this community often do…..GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ARSE!!!!!!!
This picture does tie him to something other than sports. He still didn't deserve death, but it changes the motive all together. Our are you so caught in a different agenda that forgot Alonzo's motive was to determine a motive?
You are a lying neotwit foo !.
the thing is it was a racial incident and for you to be a black man that seem to always forget where you came from you will never get were your going also kids look at it as a wake up call gangbanging is over its like poplocking & break dancing its over we have alot more things to worry about instead of fighting and k-ingg each other the mexicans are taking over ever thing we ever own and it have to stop some way some how my brothers and sisters lets come together again reunite and love oneanother.
MISS MY YG AVENUE YALL BLOWN DIS Ni66ah FACKE UP BL20D LET BL20D REST f FAKETEENZ
im a white guy in a gang hood-alive so far by the grace of god. i think banging is a discredit to honest hard working people of all races and cultures, and it will take all of us working the problem together in a multidisciplinary way to fix it. STOP THE HATE!
0N SOM3 G ish WE ALL KNO WHAT TOO EXPEKT WHEN YU INVOLVED IN SOME TYPE OF GANG AFFILIATION AND THEN HOLD YOUR LOYALTY TOO YOUR GANG AFFILIATION……
WHEN YOU THAT TYPE OF PERSON YOUR SAYING YOU READY 4 ANYTHING THATS HEADED YOUR WAY AND THATS ON PIRU….
IM SMURK-BRAZY AND IM FROM DWN SOUTH
THE SAME TYPE OF ish HAPPEND TOO MUH HOMIE BUT HE STILL HERE AND AND MOM ASKED WHY DID THEY SHOOT YOU AND HE SAID KAUSE THEY KNOW IM GANG RELATED….
IF I SEE A MEXICAN IMMA ASSUME HE BANGIN KAUSE WHERE IM AT ALL OF THEM DO AND WHEN WE SEE THEM ITS A PROBLEM…..
THIS GANG ish IS A DEADLY LIFESTYLE PLAY YUH KARDS RIGHT
GHYEA….
THIS SMURK BARZY FROM
ES Neighborhood Mafia Piru
I have been here many times and have always found this to be.
I am from Cambodia and too bad know English, please tell me right I wrote the following sentence: "Editor review and professional cheap airline tickets critics."
Thanks for the help ;-), Alaura.
OKAY MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS YOU PURPOSE YOU'RE SITTING HERE BRINGING ALL THIS UP AND FOR WHAT …..EVEN IF HE WAS A BLOOD WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD IT HAVE MADE…ALL YOU DOIN IS UPSETTING PEOPLE
U KNO HALF YALL Ni66ahS SAY YALL 6ANG 6UT R REALLY SKARED Ni66ahS YALLDNT KNW WAT GANG LIFE IS TALK TO ME WEN U SEEN YA FRIEND GRAMMA GET SHOT KUZ OF WAT HER GRANSON 6ANG 74 TIL DA WORLD 6LOW
Yeah, cuz was a slob. Damn…another slob bit the dust. Oh well. 18st will get theirs.
Bangin is a lifestyle u choose 2 enter n 2 @ any age. I seen lil kidz rep they sets many of times. I even asked a kid, “y u throw that up?” The kid said, “cause I seen my brother do it.” Sit and think on that 4 a second.
if you’re not from Kalifornia or have any ties to that state’ dont try and emulate what you see on tvt kus its real out here it is not fake! i live in virginia now and ive been here since 05 and didnt see any gangs up until 07! now thats chick Ni66ah ish and you Ni66ahs have the nerve to bang a west coast set you farts get ur own indenity…. U farts kouldnt last on day in my bity alone….
I don’t think they should give the cat the death penalty. what they gonna give him the death penalty because law enforcement failed to properly keep him in custody? I Mean its on and Krackin in LA period.
He already sentenced to the death for k-ingg a blood kuz the bloods is at them faketeens. If he illegal he shouldn’t have been in this country period. He blankin it up for all the Latino’s that worked hard to come here the legal way and do it correctly.
jay shaw got his noodle nocced cause tha Ni66ah thought cuzz from faketeen was a buster and tried 2 bangg that twinkie ish and got tha cream filling squeezed out his ass i hate to c my young blacc brothas go but this gang ish is 4real out here u outta towners think this ish is fun and games you betta really pay attention 2 boyz n da hood, colors, south central, and menace 2 society. Ni66ahs end up and have they family going thru enternal pain……………. yall c safe rather get caught wit it then without it on HOODST CRIP………
NAW Ni66ah ITS NOT ALL OF CALI THATS TURNT UP ITS JUST SOUTH CENTRAL LA…………………. COME TO MY HOOD GO DOWN CRENSHAW AND MAKE THAT LEFT ON VERNON AND U WILL C A BUNCH OF XTRAD OUT Ni66ahS WESTSIDE XL’S DONT TELL
all you idiots talking ish about 18st saying where illegals and bullish,you fers act like pedro came a week before he ked jamiel,hes been here for 16 years,he was raised around chicanos,and you keep saying faketeen,you lil chickes just hating on our hood,54th and vermont south central LA,you dont think where ish,ask street villens why we took them out,mexican klan,55th bunch,alley tiny criminals,we took them all out,ish cops were arresting homies and telling us not to k them anymore,jamiel shaw payed the price,he lived because he claimed he was a gangmember,we got blacks,we got every race in 18,benny blanko a rapper from our hood is greek,you people are just idiots,if you dont bang dont talk about gangs than,live your life the best way you can
and 18 will get ours,thats why not 1 homie from 18 has ever been ked by a black gang member,some been shot,but never ked,blacks be sticken to their drive bys shooting innocent people,and yea 18st gets our by slobs snitchen on us,only blood hood that has ever gone sa 1 on 1 war was inglewood family bloods,them vs the homies from 106th,they didnt snitch,they fought for their ish and thats respect,what do 20s and p stones do,snitch and jump any mexican sayin they from 18,thats a chick move
TELL THE fartS FROM 18st TO STOP SNITCHING ON THE 60’S..marks
18st surrounded getting that ass waisted o busters u have had 18st gang members live from and by fruittown pirus chickes
to that chick who says that the picture dont say anything you need to never log on again that picture shows a blood with the pinky and the thumb and the red texas ranger hat blood that known ariound l.a as rollin 20’s nhbl20d you will get ked giong to wrong area’s like that to meance 18 st come on bl20 who you fooling show paperwork nobody worried bout yall who yall took out??? Ni66ah when you take somebody out that meansthey are not around anymore all the gang you mentioned are around in their area so stop netbanging Ni66ah you from shatto park faketeen thats save area come around here talkin that ish.. so none of 18 got ked??? come on stop it you liar and black k innocent people?? come you liar man you 18th are homo’s we dont jump any mexican we kool with a lot off ese what you talking botu i got ese in my click i got mexican neighbors Ni66ah we smoke weed toghether stop your bullish and go put in work come to the dubtalkin bs and to larry what you talkin bout fruittown piru”s??? whey are in bompton bl20d f faketeen all exspecially that chick from shatto park homo’s
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this picture shows shaw was from the bps gang i mean you dont wear a red bandana over your mouth if your not a blood but he was if hes wearing a red bandana
man this is what happens when you tag along with gangs